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For those lacking context, ICE shot and killed a woman in Minneapolis today. An agent standing beside a car shot a driver through a car window, killing her and causing the car to lose control and crash into other parked cars.

Allegedly, the agent shot in self defense, but the shot was taken after the car started moving away from the agent.

The woman was identified as a 37 year old US citizen. She was not part of any ICE protest groups.



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What do you get from lying about this?


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It's a poor video, taken from far away at a high angle, one that misses the wide angle and intial context.

That video doesn't show the officer that shot, that you say was hit, reaching for and unholstering his weapon as she was reversing and then stepping into the turn cicle in front of the car to fire at her.

If he got hit then it was as a result of placing himself there in order to shoot the driver.

Legally, this is clear unjustified use of force.


I could also imagine in a panic wanting to get the hell away from Oathkeepers with drawn guns.


Panic is no excuse for running someone over with your car


Clearly not what happened when viewed from multiple angles.

The driver backed up, turned wheel prior to moving forward, and drove forward to leave.

During this, the ICE officer advanced, drawing his weapon, stepped into the turn circle of the vehicle, fired, and then jumped out of the way.

It's unclear whether he was hit, it is clear that he moved in front of the vehicle to fire with the intent of then moving out of danger.

At worst he skimmed across the rounded corner of the bonnet as a result of his own actions.


I think the officer moved to go towards the driver-side window, the driver then turned the wheel (past the officer, you can see the wheels turn to avoid him) to escape, the officer drew his weapon and shot her as she was leaving.

It's very clear from the video that she had no intention of running him over, he shoots after the car is past him.


There are several videos floating about the internet, it seems inescapable that soon enough there will be more and some of those will have been generated or altered.

The few that I've seen so far appear authenic, cover a few angles, and show three ICE agents about the car

* one that approached from the side and attempted to open the door causing the woman to back up, turn and leave,

* another that approached from the front and drew to fire when it became clear the car was going to leave,

* a third that stood back a little doing very little.


The one I saw was on a news show (it was the same one as you describe), which hopefully has verified it.


> Panic is no excuse for running someone over with your car

It is certainly not. Nor is shooting someone in the face. Only one of those things actually happened.

It's possible to believe this woman was an asshole and an agitator and that her death was needless and intentional.


However, making excuses for shooting someone in the face is very popular.


It is, however, an excuse to shoot an unarmed, non-threatening person.

(I don't necessarily mean the Minneapolis case - for example, consider the Shaver shooting)


Which didn't happen except in some people's delusional minds it seems.


https://bsky.app/profile/mikehixenbaugh.com/post/3mbvyvzviqk...

Hey, any thoughts on this short NYT video analysis?


Did we watch the same video? That officer intentionally put himself infront of the car, was NOT hit by it, and shot the woman after he was clear from the danger and the car was pointed away from him.


The bodycam has been released, he was clearly hit by the car. The police had the car surrounded and were trying to make an arrest. She decided to escape through his body. https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2009683575298211979


Police can’t put themselves in front of a moving car then use that as an excuse to murder someone. Sorry!


The car wasn't moving until they surrounded her car, that was the issue. She was blocking off traffic deliberately. She had to be arrested but tried to violently escape and was killed as a result of her actions. Please try to be more aligned with reality instead of just being a crazy person repeating false things then not acknowledging each and every time you're proven wrong, as you were here today.


> The car wasn't moving until they surrounded her car, that was the issue. She was blocking off traffic deliberately.

She wasn’t blocking the road intentionally. You can see her wave an ice vehicle through and they pass just fine.

She did not violently escape and she did not need to be arrested then and there. They had her license plate and she lived nearby. They would’ve picked her up in no time.

That officer put himself in danger and took a life for no reason. You are a sycophant mindlessly regurgitating the party line. You can’t see the truth in front of you


> Well, i saw the video of her hitting the cop with her car

No, you didn't. And the fact that you're consistently lying about the sequence of events in said video does not help your case. Again, what do you get from lying about this?


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Fox news video from a closer perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnVbXPCEDU

A man approaches her car and tries to pull the door open. She attempts to drive away. It seems clear to me that the woman is trying to escape. Watch the clip yourself. Note the direction the front wheels are pointing, both before and after the agent attempts to pull open the door.


Two of the shots were through the driver side window.


Funnily enough I am a leftist, there are still some of us who aren't crazy or willing to lie for political ends :)


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> it is very unlikely that the car was moving away from the agent

It was.

> In order to hit the driver, he would have been standing at the front of the car off-center.

He was.

Vehicle was moving forward, in a right hand turn, moving past the officer, but not towards/at the officer. The car did make it past the officer, without harm to the officer.




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