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Ask HN: I'm Looking for a New and Different Browser, Can You Help?
3 points by Endy on Jan 15, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments
To start with, I'm expecting a lot of downvotes here, so don't be ashamed. Frankly, I'm looking for a new browser that isn't from one of the mainstream developers. I just don't trust them anymore.

I'm running Win7 x86 (on an actual x86 single-processor PC); so suggestions for Linux aren't going to help me unless there's a 32-bit Windows binary available.

I honestly don't trust Mozilla anymore - the pattern of behavior that includes Australis, Pocket, Cliqz, WebExtensions, and Looking Glass has caused me to no longer consider Mozilla trustworthy. This further extends to SeaMonkey, K-Meleon, Pale Moon, and Basilisk; because the core of those three browsers is all reliant on Mozilla code. Pale Moon is my current primary browser due to their fiercely independent stance regarding Mozilla; but I'd like to move away from that browser family altogether in the near future.

I don't trust Google, either, and I don't want their software on my PC. That includes Chrome, Chromium, Opera 15+, Vivaldi, SRWare Iron, and probably a hundred other Chromium forks I simply don't know about. Realistically, if it uses either Blink or Chromium, I don't want it anywhere near me.

As I said, I'm on Win7 x86 and this machine is not upgrading or changing OS, so I've got IE 11 installed and that's the long and short of that possibility.

With that in mind, what options are there left to me?



Are you against using Webkit ?

There many smaller and alternative multi platform browsers using it for rendering, such as Midori or QupZilla.


I find the security benefits of a popular, frequently-updated browser (not IE11) far outweigh the risks posed by use of a rendering engine that certain companies have touched. I echo the suggestions of a WebKit browser or, failing that, Mozilla Firefox.


I would have suggested Vivaldi as I think feature wise they are good to support and see what develops but they are Blink engine.

Is Tor browser any good? Its Gecko and very privacy driven I believe.

Alternately could you use an old Opera version when they were on Presto?


Have you tried Brave? I am hearing a lot about Brave. Give it a try. Hopefully, that will end your search.


I use Brave on Linux, https://www.brave.com/ .


Brave uses Blink.


The guys behind Brave clearly focus on end-user privacy and security and are very capable to detect any bad behavior from Blink if Google will put such thing. If one cannot trust them, I do not see how one can use Windows. One has to trust Microsoft that they do not spy on you.




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