You ignored the first part of my post where I said: post elsewhere rather than appealing to government authority. My last statement was suggesting a better idea in a free society than to try to bit-by-bit destroy that free society with yet more overpowering, overintrusive government.
The implied position is that Google is doing something bad for society
That completely doesn't compute. Google isn't in business to make things better for society. If they are, maybe they should give all their profits to charity, stop hosting cat videos and instead become some kind of hoster of national public content? Who said that was their business?
I mean, why not argue that youporn.com isn't hosting these anti-ISIS videos either? They host videos. They could start hosting anti-ISIS videos to archive them.
I wholeheartedly share your "don't run to government" sentiment.
However, this sentiment bugs me:
> That completely doesn't compute. Google isn't in business to make things better for society.
If we're going to refrain from seeking the violence of state intervention when actors do things we don't like, don't we then have to count on business (and more generally, the market) to do things that we do like?
Yes, I want Google to be in business to make things better for society. I'll go even further: I want Google to position itself so that its profit depends on it doing good for society. I was proud of Google when it aligned things this way re: VP8 / webm.
If the violence inherent in the state is undesirable - and I agree that it is - then we need to build a society in which the free market selects for societal good.
>If the violence inherent in the state is undesirable - and I agree that it is - then we need to build a society in which the free market selects for societal good.
That's not a free market though.
The unfortunate truth is, if you want "societal good" to be guaranteed, (given some definition of that) you have to force it to be so - which is what the violence of the state is intended for. Otherwise markets take the path of least resistance to greatest profit, and that may not be a path which benefits society as a whole.
> markets take the path of least resistance to greatest profit
I assert that a society in which love and compassion are the orders of the day will, in the demands and price signals it sends to the market, not abide by this orthodoxy.
> if you want "societal good" to be guaranteed, (given some definition of that) you have to force it to be so - which is what the violence of the state is intended for
The idea that wonderful ends can spring from such unseemly means is not in keeping with what I am able to observe of the universe.
>I assert that a society in which love and compassion are the orders of the day will, in the demands and price signals it sends to the market, not abide by this orthodoxy.
Such a market (and society) would seem contrary to human nature, therein lies the problem. People are willing to tolerate mob violence, rape and slavery to spend a bit less for their smartphones.
If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were
to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government
would be necessary.
--Alexander Hamilton
Eric Schmidt disagrees with you: "In general, I think our mission is to use technology to really change the world for the better."
But anyway, you keep trying to argue with me, while I'm only making the point that you should understand the argument. I'm not sure if you're unwilling to try, but in any case I'm not interested.
I actually sympathize with the position that we shouldn't have laws requiring Google to host this content, by the way.
It's not ad hominem because I'm not trying to rebut your argument. In fact, I'm explicitly saying I'm not engaging with the argument you keep making. Your post just underlines that you're not actually listening to the people you're talking to.
The implied position is that Google is doing something bad for society
That completely doesn't compute. Google isn't in business to make things better for society. If they are, maybe they should give all their profits to charity, stop hosting cat videos and instead become some kind of hoster of national public content? Who said that was their business?
I mean, why not argue that youporn.com isn't hosting these anti-ISIS videos either? They host videos. They could start hosting anti-ISIS videos to archive them.