This rude reddit stuff, this snarky ignorance-as-an-argument junk, is just so demeaning.
The role of the entrepreneur is to organize labor and capital in pursuit of their goals. The achievement of said goals can obviously be attributed to the entrepreneur.
Try anchoring your arguments in facts--in reality. Make assertions. Form syllogisms. Word games are for children.
I see it like he’s one of the only outlets not regurgitating lying press releases and actually calling out the truth.
I always see Fred attacked on HN, but I never see anyone cite false statements he’s made. He’s just a bad person for hating on Tesla. As if it’s bad for a writer to critically cover a company doing bad things.
I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rAXF_btvE to be more balanced than the LTT video, but I think it mostly depends on your expectations of the cameras. The videos themselves are stored locally, not in the cloud. But if you have thumbnails turned on in the notifications, then the thumbnails have to be stored somewhere temporarily (I think this is an Apple/Google requirement), and they're being stored on a cloud server rather than in your home network (which would require opening up a port).
Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but no, you did not design a website just fine with AI. It’s not even just “good”. It’s average. Painfully average, to the point of it being easily mistaken for a scam.
I completely disagree. Making a average website is the goal of most businesses that are selling an actual product. His website looks modern and welcoming and does not distract or take away from the actual content. This exactly what most people should aim for. Some actual constructive criticism is some o the icons in the example log mood look weird on my phone, with really small emojis overlapping the face emoji
No one should aim for average, that’s an incredibly defeatist way of looking at it. Besides, design matters. I know HN is frequented mostly by people with very little interest in such topics, but design absolutely matters.
And yes, while the author’s website is perfectly passable, it is by no means “good”. People pick up on that, they might not know they do, but they do. Design wouldn’t be an industry and a school by itself if it didn’t matter and just the average were good enough.
A lot of people don't make websites for a living. If they are a small business and have other things to worry about in terms of actual work, being able to prompt for a clean, professional website frees up their time and means they don't have to use additional funds to hire a developer.
When I shared this I wasn't thinking about the marketing site -- I meant to show the product itself. Given the feedback here I no longer think it's a good representative as-is, especially with the generic SVGs / rounded cards
I can't help but think you and the other commenters reducing this to slop didn't even try the product. I thought it went without saying that I wasn't posting to show a marketing landing page.
Well it works but it also looks like every other generic bootstrap based website with not even an original palette choice.
Great for a project like this, unusable for any client work
Is this a critique of the marketing page or of the product itself?
I didn't intend for this to be about the marketing page -- what you say is true of just about every marketing page. They're prevalent because they are good at distilling information without overwhelming the user. But I agree I can do better and will work on this more, I really appreciate getting this feedback
Most people look at pool chemistry/maintenance as painfully overwhelming, so for everyone to say this looks boring or mundane is a bit validating. No one has (yet!) said they don't understand the product, it's purpose, or it's value :)
The palette looks a lot like the basic colors from Bootstrap is more the thing. Which is what models tend to do a lot of the time, because you know, that's what's been learned.
Also:
- why shadows somewhere and not for other cards?
- why so many different font sizes with no hyerarchy?
- the paddings and margins are inconsistent and don't convey visual rythm. Sometimes there's too much space and sometimes they are too cramped.
ecc...
Is this an ok amateur website you couldn't have made this quick? Yes.
Is that a sufficient value proposition to say that Ai has solved frontend? no.
On a side note: Would you pay the actual real price of these models to achieve this same results, if they weren't subsidized by delusional billionaires? Up to you to respond.
Though it's somewhat clear from the use of tiles with the icon colours and the choice of border colours and all, I quite like it. I would have expected the colour theme from the navbar to be repeated because that's a more non standard palette. I would do that, maybe use a different tile layout (use a tile shape resembling a pool tile? Or even a rectangle signifying a typical pool shape) and create some vector icons for them using the navbar colour scheme.
Some more serious critique of things I noticed within 30 seconds:
- Text isn't selectable on the page.
- The tooltip in the "day 1" to "day 14" cards gets cut off by the border (I see this mistake ALL the time with AI-generated frontends btw)
- It's sparse and very long. I think the information could be condensed in half the size, and it would improve the presentation. This is personal preference though.
- The playbooks' "mark complete" are not persisted on reload or navigation.
All in all, it's functional and quite decent. I agree with the other people saying it looks generic, but I disagree on it being necessarily a bad thing for this kind of product.
I know nothing about pools so I can't comment on the accuracy of the playbooks. It's nice that there's so many of them, but given the LLM vibe of the text I'm slightly suspicious.
I see that you haven't finished the Automatic Sensor Automation. If you need help with that, contact me, I have experience with embedded product development and I like working on interesting projects :)
Why don’t these llm’s just allow you to pick from a set of standardised templates and then allow you to customise it from there in terms of both functionality and design?
What you have got as output is what I also get as output from llm’s - they suck the soul out of everything. Which is fine in the right context but that shouldn’t we as a species strive for in design imo.
Sorry but this website screams AI slop to me. Very sparse, lots of cards and random icons and rounded corners, looks like a few messages in to a Claude code session
I intended to share the product rather than the marketing page. I mean, I didn't intend to share this at all yet because it's not done, but when I saw people asking for examples..
But yeah, marketing site looks like a marketing site. I'm realizing now that a lot of my app's internal design/flair is missing from the marketing page -- so I appreciate your looking/commenting
I think there’s a bug? It used to be memory efficient and now I periodically notice it explodes. Quit and restart fixes it
I don’t have any extensions installed and I’m basically leaving it open, idle, as a note scratch space. I do have projects open with many files but not many actual files are open
Not trying to argue but you can indeed pretty much completely avoid Xcode at this point. I’ve been doing it the past few weeks, including pushing to my phone and AppStore connect
They could also do a plan 3 where they discourage others so they can use it to, say, rapidly build many new products but competitors would have to pay a fortune for the same luxury
> They could also do a plan 3 where they discourage others so they can use it to, say, rapidly build many new products but competitors would have to pay a fortune for the same luxury
Unlikely that they all decided to do this within weeks of each other. Still, like you said, you were spit-balling, not asserting :-)
Fair point. We only have clear evidence they're being more transparent about credit pricing and value, but it's unclear whether that'll make people burn through usage faster or slower.
The fuzziness is intentional. It gives them wiggle room and obscures how much "value" you actually get from $200, a 5-hour block, or a week. That keeps the tension manageable between subscription pricing and pay-per-token API pricing, especially for larger businesses on enterprise plans who want transparent $-per-MTok rates.
If they were fully transparent, like "your $200 sub gets you up to $2,000 of equivalent API usage," it would be a constant fight. People would track pennies and scream any time 5-hour blocks got throttled during peak hours. Businesses would push harder for pay-per-token discounts seeing that juicy $200 sub value.
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