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OK. What should I do if I don't fall under a refugee description, don't have any immediate family in the EU, my diploma means nothing to EU, and have no bag of gold to immigrate illegaly?

This is me, plain and simple. I would like to immigrate, but I have no legal grounds.

Serious question, no gimmicks or laughs: should I die or be cancelled by the rest of the world?


> should I die or be cancelled by the rest of the world?

You should not die. But you don’t have an inaliable right to thrive in your country.

Again, not trying to be a dick. War sucks. I am truly sorry you’re hurting. And I am not suggesting it’s your duty to join a resistance movement or whatever. But these are considerations and costs we must all weigh when our governments do horrible things. Most of the time, sadly, the world won’t care. We (America) have war criminals who should be in jail. But occasionally, the world gets horrified and rises to the occasion. Even that occasional threat is better than nothing.


This is a nice sentiment, but in the meantime, we're getting F'd for the actions we tried to stop. We failed, but we did the best we could, without resorting to violence.

I agree, this is not enough. But this is by no means an excuse to cancel an entire nation.


Agreed, but it beats having your country invaded, your cities shelled and starved. That's what is in the balance, compared to that you have a luxury situation.


That's the point. I'm not the one shelling another one's country, even so -- I'm doing everything in my power to prevent it. Instead, commercial service decides to capitalize their PR value on it, and decides to cause even more harm than already have been caused.

This cannot be justified.


No, this is not about PR, this is about their employees. This isn't a press release, it was a message to a customer.

What bugs me is that they did not make a distinction between private individuals and corporations, if I were in their position I would have let the private individuals go, they are Russians, not Russia.

Even so: every Russian citizen and every Russian company that is currently relying on businesses in the West such as Amazon, Google, Microsoft and so on should expect those services to be cut off at some point in the near future.


> You should not die. But you don’t have an inaliable[sic] right to thrive in your country.

The most disgustingly american thing ever said.


Political asylum.


Portugal is only 10.000 square kilometres bigger than one of the Russian's "oblast" (region) I grew up in, and has twice less people living in it than Moscow city residents.

This is why only four people have died. Death toll in Russia in case of a mass revolution would be tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.


Portugal has 10M people, Russia has 146M, so 4x14,6=58,4.. A similar coup would result only in 58 deaths.. ;)


Mate, this is not something that can be quantified just like that. I have been to the Portugal once, and your people are very peaceful and friendly. I'm afraid this is not the case with rural Russia -- which means that any confrontation would be deadly and very, very bloody.

This is exactly why I'm doing what I can, but avoiding any violence. This is not the way we win this.


You are right, I was only playing with the numbers, hence my smiley on the end of the sentence. Every case is different, violence should be avoided if possible!


So after five plus years of being a client, a private company will be deciding whether I'm worthy of their service or not based on whether I got my teeth kicked in during the protest actions for the past few days?

Should I e-mail some photos of my bruises left by police batons on my ribs? Or maybe I should kneel?

This is humiliating, and you know it. You're just making more problems and creating more danger for absolutely innocent people, just in spite.

This is the essence of cancel culture, now on a national level.


> This is the essence of cancel culture, now on a national level.

We need to lose that term. It's not cancel culture to decide who you do and don't want to associate with, or do business with. That's freedom. The people being rejected only think their own freedom matters. Unless they are a protected class, that simply isn't true.


Sadly its either these actions or tanks. And if the west would send tanks to Ukraine it'd be WW3. Its the lesser evil now sadly.


>And if the west would send tanks to Ukraine it'd be WW3

that tired misconception should be dropped. West can send any weapons to Ukraine, and volunteers from West, trained tank drivers and pilots, can drive those Abrams tanks and fly those F-16 planes. Russia and China has been doing "volunteer" trick just fine.

World needs to start to learn to deal with such situations. China/Taiwan is coming and total sanctions regime wouldn't be possible with China.


It would be much preferable for Russians as a whole for the West to send tanks to Ukraine to engage the invading troops. And no, it wouldn't automatically be WW3, either. It would be if the tanks crossed the Russian border, but they don't have to do so to break the invasion.


Putin called for the nukes to be put on High Alert before there was any threat of direct NATO action (and there is still no talk of any). What is the next step? "Higher" alert?

MORE direct combattants, _especially_ from other superpowers, is the last thing that we need. Adding additional powerderkegs to the existing fire does nothing to stop it.


To extend on your fire analogy, it's not just a fire, it's arson - and the arsonist is still there, sprinkling gas around and throwing matches. You can't extinguish the fire without dealing with the arsonist.

As for Putin, he's basically a gopnik. There's a Russian word for what these guys do - "быковать", literally "bulling", but it's basically a display of aggression to establish oneself higher in the hierarchy and to make the victim afraid to fight back. If you acquiesce to gopnik's demands, he will come up with more, until the point where he "justifiably" takes away your phone and wallet.


>What is the next step? "Higher" alert?

Essentially yes. The current step is the equivalent of DEFCON 3.


I hate to break it to you, but Russia started a war! Russia, the place where Russian citizens live, protected by an army of Russians. Russia is not some ephemeral theoretical quantity, it's a state governing its people with their consent. The preferences of their citizens are not a priority and, if you feel that consent has vanished, the only one who can do anything about it is you.


I'm not sure how this relates to anything in my comment.


Apologies for the language -- but are you mental?

I do get the idea of sanctions -- I'm legally prevented by publicly commenting on this due to some Russian law -- but I understand if a foreign business body has to terminate its business relations with a Russian one.

But kicking out paid customers just based on their nationality, knowing that they have no direct control over situation, and still blaming them for it? This is f**d up, I'm sorry.


Please don't cross into personal attack. I know you're under pressure, and other people are in terrible situations. We can't allow HN users to start taking that out on each other.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I cannot shake the weird feeling that in the united states almost everything is left to the free market, even sanctions.


It's a shitty enough situation that some of those things would seem to be necessary in order to persuade your service provider to keep service up. Automatically billing your credit card for a few years doesn't really say as much.


It's not even spite. Spite at least has some emotion in it. This is lazy virtue signaling of the kind that sounds impressive when you've been bought enough drinks to forego further explanation of who this is actually helping.


To reduce the actions of a company protecting the interests of Ukrainian employees to Western political buzzwords is facile.


> Putin has announced recently that cross-border payments in USD and EUR are to be blocked. Which means that most Russians affected by this won't be able to pay for a registrar outside of Russia.

THIS

I've paid upfront exactly because of this, I was expecting some kind of ban of cross-border bank transfers. The same reason I've paid for my VPN upfront. No one in Russia, especially those who are politically active, can't really go around without some kind of self-hosted infrastructure.

Now, should Namecheap lag even a little bit with a transfer, which I've HAD to pay for (thankfully, I was able to use other provider rather than nic.ru), I will be left without my private XMPP service, self-hosted e-mail and a lot of stuff which makes my communications at least relatively safe.

While making such moves, they just made my life more dangerous, at time when government already looks for someone on the inside to blame.


> thankfully, I was able to use other provider rather than nic.ru

May I ask you which one you transferred your domains to?


I would prefer not to disclose this due to concerns to my personal safety. Thank you for understanding.


I've paid in full for four domains just four days ago -- some two hours before I was thrown into a police bus. I may understand why you did this, but this is a low move, nonetheless.

Tax dollars or not, you're imposing extra costs on your users, most of which relied on your services for decades, and terminating any trust they ever had in your services.


This is really wrong. I'm a Russian national, and I'm not supporting aggression towards Ukraine. In contrast, I've spent last two days in police after being detained due to the fact that I dared to express my condemnation in public protest.

I am not my government, and apart from starting a one-man revolution with a pretty obvious result, I'm doing everything I can to raise awareness, condemn actions of Russian government, and put an end to this. I've been doing so since 2011, back when I was a college student.

Namecheap -- this is a low move. While I do understand that your company has a lot of Ukrainian employees, all of which are in grave danger, you're not doing anyone a favor by making a shitty life of most Russian nationals even shittier.


> your company has a lot of Ukrainian employees

That raises a question: how to find a domain registar without a lot of Ukrainian employees ?

According to the recent leak, Epik has them a lot as well.

Could we crowdsource such a list of registrars sorted by nationality of their employees to be prepared to the geo risks?


It is really hard to me to answer this. I was able to find a private Russian-based registar, which at least on the surface has no ties to the government or government-controlled entities and works with ICANN directly.

Other people are trying to move to Cloudflare -- but my banking cards are already not working, and I can't pay in USD for their services. Plus to that, even if somebody manages to move to Cloudflare or GoDaddy, there's no guarantee that they won't pull the plug as well.


>Could we crowdsource such a list of registrars sorted by nationality of their employees to be prepared to the geo risks?

People here are suggesting nic.ru, which I presume would have a pretty low risk of getting kicked off.


One of my websites is blocked by Roskomnadzor, so I'd prefer an offshore registrar :(


Consider njal.la.


Regardless of your intentions, your list idea would be used for racist discrimination.

You might consider a list of registrars that do stuff you disagree with instead.


No, it's about protecting against racist discrimination.

I would prefer to work with companies where different nationalities are represented.

90%+ of employees in one country (be it Ukraine, Russia, USA or China) is a geo-risk for clients.

And mind you, Namecheap doesn't ban clients based on their agreement or disagreement with something. It bans pro-Ukrainian dissidents in Russia too.

Racism culture thrives in mono-ethnic companies and this Namecheap case is a good example


The best approach is probably to have multiple domains from multiple registrars and registries for your website.


njal.la. Sign up via tor, pay with crypto. They'll never know where you're from, nor do they want to.


Ooo very nifty. Thank you.


All of this also applies to the sanctions making the ruble and Russian stock market crumble. It's a piece of a larger whole.


Keep explaining to the Russian person why these actions impacting their life are good.


Since no one said it, many thanks for your courage and actions opposing Putin!


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