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Welp -- this explains why Slack's sales teams is going scorched earth after them. If Hack Foundation is the same as Hack Club their revenue has skyrocketed in recent years, and they're showing consistent growth. So do sales people at big tech companies keep tabs on non-profits financials and decide when to pounce on them for money based on growth like this? something tells me probably.


The word “nonprofit” shouldn’t really be used for these organizations anyway because you can see right there the people in charge of it are literally profiting.

Noshareholder would be more honest.


The people in charge are getting a very modest salary for a developer, and a extremely modest salary for someone running a 10m/yr organization.


so they’re profiting, glad we agree


A non-profit does not mean it does not spend money on anyone's salary. It means the corporate entity does not make a profit.


That doesn't really matter?


It does matter. People working for a non-profit should not work for free. It's completely acceptable for a non-profit to have an income and assets. Revenue may increase and it would be irresponsible to immediately increase expenses to match when they can conservatively plan for the future.

This is said knowing nothing about the company in question, just from my own experience working for a non-profit. Employees still need to be paid.


The amount they get paid shouldn't matter at all. Nobody said anything about not paying people lol


The OP said if the founder is getting paid a salary it shouldn't be called a non-profit.

That is literally what the OP is arguing that people who found non-profit organization shouldn't be paid even a modest salary for their work.


I wouldn't say that a salary is profiteering from a non profit. It's the cost of doing (non-profit) business.


So if I got paid $50 to write this reply I wouldn't have profited from writing it?


"people in charge are literally profiting"

This raises some interesting questions. Would you expect to see people in charge of this org, performing the day-to-day jobs, to work without receiving any pay? When you say the people are profiting, do you mean the organization is receiving more money each year than they are spending? That is certainly the goal of all orgs, businesses, churches, soup kitchens, and government NGO's.

It's an interesting question. I suppose they could take on jobs elsewhere in the private sector, and then perform these jobs for Hack Club at zero cost to the company. I would say it comes down to time spent. How big is Hack Club? If it can be managed for 10 minutes worth of work a day, then perhaps that should be donated time. If it requires more than 8+ hours a day. And if the work is specialized then it def needs the right person there, WITH the expertise to run this company --- then they should receive pay for his/her work.


Went to work for our family farm after 20 years in various IT roles. Health problems with myself and my family who managed the farm were influencers for me to switch. I really enjoy the new balance of my work day. More or less is 50% spent on desk work (farm record keeping, paying bills, payroll, and of course small software dev projects). The other 50% is in the field planting, spraying, harvesting, etc.


"Due to the irregularities of climate change". I can't help but ask why the sentence couldn't have been worded -- "Due to the irregularities of weather". Climate has ALWAYS been irregular and will always be going forward. I mean was there once upon a time a generation of people who thrived year after year with constant and predictable weather. My reading of history says that climate catastrophes have struck since the beginning of time, virtually across the globe. Climate is generally predictable but never constant. I wish we could be honest about that. And from that place of honesty I'd be much more willing to discuss modern climate issues, and what if any effect we can have on it.


Correct. Rubber meeting the road comment here. This is the reality of most farms in America. Possibilities are not "endless" for revolutionizing farm practices, they must be profitable and margins are tight.


Why did they try continuous corn? Seed technologies became available that allow it.


My family's been farming corn on corn for 20+ years. Started strip-tilling in the 80's High residue fields help trap as much moisture as we can with limited irrigation capacity. Farmers have no choice but to take care of their soils to remain viable. And more than viable, be profitable as there are many people who depend on them both for their livelihoods as well as an ever demanding population with mouths to feed.


Can you phrase it another way beginning at "what about the feedback". I'm curious about your comment, especially your point on evapotranspiration.


My thoughts exactly! I'm sick of Linux's disjointedness and impossible to follow OS. I'll see you guys on Windows 11. Peace.


I wouldn't go that far... I've used Linux since the mid-90s, and Windows for a few years longer than that, and Linux is still orders of magnitude easier to follow and especially to dissect than Windows. Windows is pretty much entirely opaque, you're at the mercy of whatever happens behind the curtain. UNIX-y OSes like Linux and OpenBSD blow that curtain wide open, but OpenBSD is just much more consistent because it's all built "in-house". (And then some super popular stuff like OpenSSH gets exported from it.)


At the risk of being hung, drawn, and quartered on hackernews, I actually agree. This seems like such a fringe idea among the "hacker" culture but I find Windows to be significantly more tolerable than the not-so-organized chaos that is modern Linux. And BSD tends not to focus on the out-of-the-box experience, but more on the "customize it exactly the way you want it", archlinux-y vibe. Which is cool but I'd rather have something that just works. Windows checks all the boxes for me, was free through my university, and if I get tired of Powershell I can use WSL.


ASCII Enemas should be a last resort. When all else fails.


Similar experience. I moved a domain of mine to O365 from GSuite (Google Workspace) about 2 years ago. I am currently in the process of migrating BACK to Google Workspace.

Generally unhappy with O365 email over the last 2 years. Few of my complaints are: Subpar experience on Outlook for Android. (Gmail is so darn good). Just ready for my Gmail experience again. Overall site management using Microsoft's web dashboard for domain, permissions, spam, 2FA, is %ו@#$ NOT GOOD! I have read so many outdated, no-longer-valid support docs that I'm simply done. "Cloud" products like this have a hell of a time keeping their docs up to date and relevant. Google isn't immune here. But for whatever reason I have far less problems with several other domains I manage that are pure Google Workspace, er.... GSuite....er Gotigle Apps. Y'all get my drift.


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