I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs:
- space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed
- haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc.
- drives itself - we do a ton of road trips
- luxury
- electric, tired of going to gas stations
Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxes.
Have you ever driven one? They are amazing to drive.
This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke and you aren't so indiscriminate and unrefined as to actually be calling anything made by this company "luxury".
Every single Tesla I have had the great misfortuned to be a passenger in has felt threadbare and stripped down. Constructed of the same terrible, cheap ruggedized plastic as the most budget trim sedan of the mid-00s. I'm talking the subjective experience of the cheap-ass plastic interior door paneling of a 2004 Hyundai Accent L....in 2017.
Sure, the interior is spacious, but not in a way that feels good. It's spacious in the way that the seating on an Allegiant flight is spacious, and just as rigid.
Whenever we go around a curve in one I feel like I'm being thrown into the doors and they could just pop open.
Sure there's a touchscreen tablet, but that's not luxury, they sell touchscreen tablets for $25 at Walmart on black friday.
They are the most value-engineered (as in "how can we provide the minimum while charging the maximum") vehicles I have ever experienced, and I am counting every budget trim of every cheap sedan of my entire life experience inclusive of the US Auto Industry collapse.
I've owned several luxury SUVs (volvo, mercedes), a porsche 911 and an s class (admittedly a while ago). The cybertruck to me feels in the same league. I know older/cheaper teslas might not be the same but try the Cybertruck - I think you'd be surprised. Its very comfortable.
I currently own 5 luxury vehicles and have ridden in a Cybertruck, and the Cybertruck is so far below in terms of quality it makes me question what luxury features you see in it.
air suspension, heated and air cooled comfortable leather seats, 15 high quality speakers, everything is soft to the touch (minus the window switches), super fast high quality software (that alone is a huge draw for me, most other cars have terrible software)
honestly don't need much more than that - yes it doesn't have a fridge or massaging seats or whatever, but thats usually in cars with a higher price point too
You "can" put three kids in the back of a Honda Civic. You "can" tow 10k with a Ford Ranger. They're both kind of a sucky experience for all parties involved and it makes perfect sense why people who can afford a vehicle with way more capacity go that route. It makes things that take care and precision and thought as mindless as throwing a light switch. They're not paying for capability, they're paying to make it easy.
I own a station wagon, a minivan, a pickup truck and a hatch (and my spouse drives a boring crossover). I completely understand why "buy a crew cab truck" has become the norm for people who want to just write one check a month to cover every use case.
Additionally, frequent "truck" usage is an absolute menace on wagon/minivan interiors.
have you used FSD? Have you used the best self driving from other manufacturers? I have. Its no comparison. I turn on FSD and it drives me driveway to driveway to a place in the mountains 4 hours away. I don't touch the wheel.
The same FSD that drove full speed, no reaction, into a wall in san antonio? It was a cybpertruck, too. Or how the cyber cabs have an insane high accident rate here in Austin? I literally move away from teslas when I drive because of this.
On top of that, every Tesla I have driven is poorly built. Ugly rattly plastic, bad panel gaps from the factory, factory paint not even matching, poor UX with everything jammed into the touch screen (lmao gotta go 4 levels deep in the UI to pop the glove box, unless they shipped a change for that). The brake pedal feel like stepping on a hard brick. No feel. Nothing. The drive by wire steering is like driving a 2005 nascar sim with no force feedback.
I could go on, they are objectively bad cars and for those who don't know cars and just want tech.
And the fact that your purchase is supporting a guy that literally threw two nazi salutes at an inauguration? Is that facsist alignment a feature or a bug for your "best car you've ever had"?
The only ones I see in my zip code in Miami-Dade/Broward are (mostly) Russians who aspire to a Kardashian tank, a.k.a G-Wagon. The other ones are wrapped in "re-fi your mortgage" type of nastiness. I am terrified when I am next to one in a car or on a bike (because I know "my people").
I am not a Tesla the car hater, if only this monstrosity wasn't all sharp angles, otherwise to each their own.
A Cybertruck cannot physically fit 4 bikes, and the truck bed is not long enough to fit skis or snowboards.
When I go biking and snowboarding with my idiot friend that owns a Cybertruck, we have to use my Outback to haul the gear because it won't fit in his lemon.
It was pretty funny driving past the SpaceX facility in Hawthorne and seeing the F150s doing all the real work while the CTs sat to the side for press shots.
Blue Cruise on the F150-Lightning is pretty capable, and it also supports a comma.ai, which is better in a practical sense than FSD.
I have a friend with a CyberBeast and a friend with an F150-Lightning. The acceleration on the CyberBeast is absolutely magnificent and FSD is very capable. However as a truck, the frunk on the F150 is way more useful. The F150 is a better truck, but I'd say the Cybertruck is really good big weird car.
for your kids safety, would you rather do 30,000 miles in HW4 FSD in a Tesla or hand driven in any other car of your choosing? doing 30K miles in a waymo isn't an option.
Driving myself. Which I do, partly because I refuse to support Musk if I can avoid it, and partly because I think their engineering is deeply unethical and unserious.
You’re avoiding the point of the question. Do you think you hand driving in any other car is safer for your kids than having fsd drive? Yes or no.
If you’re answer is fsd is safer for your kids then fine, you choose to trade off some (maybe marginal safety) in order to not support a company you don’t like. I understand that. If your answer is that hand driving is safer, then I don’t know how to convince you otherwise because having used it and seeing the published data it’s so much obviously safer than me driving. And I’ve been driving for 30+ years
Bluecruise exists it works, it's generally safe. If you try and kick this back and say it's not Full Self Driving or comparable to Tesla, then I'm going to start posting links to videos of Tesla FSD (All generations, including latest) doing thing like ignoring school buses signs and mowing down children, turning off with no warning at highway speeds, and otherwise dangerously not-working.
You can try and claim Tesla's self-driving features are great and work 100% of the time, I suspect most people here know that is FUD and there is ample evidence that Tesla "FSD" is certainly no better than competitors and is arguably worse.
no no no you have to ignore that people like the product, its more important to mock production manufacturing from the armchair.
I personally don't like the cybertruck and wish they made something much closer to Rivian, but getting upset about a product you don't like is a small man ting
Sprites aren't ephemeral. They're like deli cups: "semi-disposable". You keep them around as long as you feel like, and you don't feel bad about throwing them away.
"Tech" was incredible light on CapExp compared with everything else (until AI hit, that is). That is what allowed its explosive growth. On the one hand alphabet is not used to that. On the other hand it is turning into a more normal business with more CapExp, and like other more "normal" business it uses more external investment. As a general rule of thumb: The more capex, the more leverage; for example commodity extraction, infrastructure or power generation are very capex heavy, and heavily leveraged.
I disagree with their reasoning and would say it's more for strategic benefits.
Giving firms that they get along well with (like Sequoia) allocation feels like a mix between a favor and possibly a way to signal that the valuation has some external buy-in too.
I have! It's pretty interesting and handles a lot of the problems discussed here, but is a little young for us. For one thing, it doesn't have fly replay, so we'd have to build a separate proxy again.
If we were starting from 0, I would definitely try it. My favorite thing about it is the progressive checkpointing- you can snapshot file system deltas and store them at s3 prices. Cool stuff!
So what about Cursor's tab autocomplete? Seems like there is a spectrum of tooling between raw assembly all the way to vibe coding and I'm trying to see where you draw the line. Is it "if it uses AI, its bad" or are you more against the "hey build me something and I'm not even gonna check the results."
I have a latency sensitive application - anyone know if any tools that let you compare time to first token and total latency for a bunch of models at once given a prompt. Ideally, run close to the DCs that serve the various models so we can take out network latency from the benchmark.
It appears not to be. Here are the ones in Santa Clara County:
- Milpitas
- Mountain View
- Palo Alto Santa
- San Jose
- Sunnyvale
- Unincorporated Area (Lexington
Hills area, overlapping Santa
Clara and Santa Cruz Counties)
I don't know why it says "Palo Alto Santa"
Edit: I guess it's "Palo Alto Santa" to disambiguate between Palo Alto, which is in Santa Clara County, and East Palo Alto, which is in San Mateo County (BTW the westmost point of East Palo Alto is east of the westmost point of Palo Alto, but the eastmost point of East Palo Alto is not east of the eastmost point of Palo Alto).
It looks like the map includes north of 280, so you can use it to go to Gamba Karaoke and Tea Era. And really, what else could you need from Cupertino?
why is there an approved map? like i get having a pilot somewhere but once that goes well (and we're way past that point), why isn't it just blanket approval everywhere. Why would one county be allowed waymos but not another.
I get that they might not be approved in the high sierras but just make that a deny list not allow list. Or even just deny the specific conditions you're worried about (snow).
There's an approved map because the approval process requires the manufacturer to specify both areas and conditions they are applying for, and documents supporting that the vehicle is ready to be operated autonomously in those areas and conditions (which doesn't just include technical readiness, but also administrative readiness in the form of things like a law enforcement interaction plan, etc.)
> like i get having a pilot somewhere but once that goes well (and we're way past that point), why isn't it just blanket approval everywhere.
Because “everywhere” isn't a uniform domain (Waymo is kind of way out in one tail of the distribution in terms of both the geographical range and range of conditions they have applied for and been approved to operate in, other AV manufacturers are in much tinier zones, and narrow road/weather conditions.) And because for some AV manufacturers (if there is one that can demonstrate they don't need this, they'd probably have an easier lift getting broader approvals) part of readiness to deploy (or test) in an area is detailed, manufacturer specific mapping/surveying of the roads.
My question is why they even have to apply for specific areas to begin with? Just approve the manufacturer for certain conditions and let them operate wherever they want.
I think laypeople vastly overestimate how much the maps are a bottleneck compared to boring things like infrastructure to charge, people to clean the vehicles, integrating with local governments to allow things like disabling Pickup/Dropoff in certain areas at certain times, etc.
Even with local partners that all takes a lot of time.
Right but what does that have to do with the DMV. Waymo should apply for certain weather conditions and then the DMV says yes or no, then they stay the hell out of the way. Let waymo operate whereever they want and expand however they see fit and whenever they feel ready.
Like the DMV is actually checking Waymos map of a new area is good to go or not. Its just administrative burden.
More of the state is not allowed than is... at least by geography.
Also, there's a practical element. If I have to specify where they can't go, the default position is they can go anywhere... if I inadvertently leave an area out of my black-list where it really ought to exist: the default is "permission granted". With a white-list, the worst case is a forgotten or neglected area can't be operated in as a default and the AV provider will have an interest in correcting.
But also politics. It's a very different message to say we're going to white-list a given AV operator to exist in different areas vs. black-listing them from certain areas.
I bought one and its the best car I've ever had. Event though I was never a "truck" buyer it checked off all my needs: - space for wife, car seats + another adult when needed - haul around my kids, 4 bikes, skis, camping gear, etc. - drives itself - we do a ton of road trips - luxury - electric, tired of going to gas stations
Wasn't another car on the market that checked those boxes.
Have you ever driven one? They are amazing to drive.
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