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That's really interesting. I am an Evangelical, and no one that I know supports Israel. Could it be something else?

It's always weird hearing yourself described and recognizing approximately nothing, right?

The hubris to think a group of people could precipitate the rapture is just awe inspiring and the hubris to reduce someone's relationship with the creator to some Wikipedia excerpts is a bit less awe inspiring.


That's interesting. Every evangelical with whom I've spoken seems to be willing to give Israel carte blanche

Anyone can call themselves a Christian. One can only tell a true Christian by their fruits. (e.g. love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, and many others)

Your movement knows and cares nothing about Jewish culture and uses the resurrection of the state of Israel in that geographic location as a pawn to both rationalize progress towards your doomsday prophecy and the validity of your belief system at all

All so you get an accelerated chance to ride with Zombie Jesus on a cloud to heaven while the rest of us experience supernatural calamity, and most illuminating is the fact that the Jews don’t. get. to. come.

Its all so contrived and opportunistic

Instead of stating that, Israel is masqueraded as our democratic partner in the Middle East where we can store bases as if we don’t have bases in every surrounding country there.

It’s just your sect perpetuating this nonsense. We built this nation devoid of a divine monarchies, the only freaking one with the opportunity and resources for it to matter at the time, and now have to deal with you guys and your anti-intellectual doomsday cult.

The US has no reason to be involved at all. But even beyond that, look at what the US did to Ethiopia and Eritrea under the mere allegation of famine inducing actions:

EO 14046 just a couple years ago put the entire ruling party on the OFAC economic sanctions list, and the military and businesses formed by personnel in either and by their spouses. You know that would be essentially every person in Israel if we held them to the same standard? Should be fine, only antisemitic people believe there’s a disproportionately large consolidation of economic interests amirite, FAFO but just the find out stage

Takes only the stroke of a pen, Congress not needing to be involved at all, and can even apply to our dual allegiance citizens in the US


You seem pretty upset. But, rest assured that I'm not your problem. And, the Gospel has nothing to do with any of that. True followers of Jesus Christ are just here to love Jesus and love those around them.

Anyone can call themselves a Christian. In fact, the bible repeatedly warns about this, and instructs us to test everything. It says one can only discern a true follower of Jesus by their fruits and the company they keep.

Actually, when you talk to a lot of "Christians", you'll find that most don't know the bible, and many worship something else that they picked up from tv, usually Judaism (i.e. do they mention the 10 commandments?).


The conditional paths to salvation is a core aspect of Christianity whether your personal journey and house of worship focuses on that or not

Evangelicalism is an accelerationist sect to get your savior to come back and bring the most devout to heaven at the expense of everyone else, before allowing the world to get destroyed

These are inseparable concepts. You may have simply began identifying as Evangelic just by birth or proximity or to grift your way into a relationship, but again, you are in a death cult that is trying to use Jewish people as pawns ever since their Zionism ideology coincidentally matched your prophecy. And then they are condemned to burn with the rest of us in a supernatural nightmare as our world gets destroyed by your creator’s more powerful creations while you are insulated if you did everything right. That’s what the rapture is.

Your choice and practice of peace and love has nothing to do with Evangelicalism as a distinct Christian sect. Anyone can read inspirational and feel good messages from the book of Psalms from any variant of the text. You don’t even need that Abrahamic religion for that, you dont even need religion for that.

I’m not even writing this for you, you’re cooked and gain more benefits socially and mentally from rationalizing this, I’m writing this for passerby’s, people already noticing cracks in the belief system they associate with.

People that can help get our country out of involvement in this while you guys pretend there is a persecution complex around holidays. Everyone just wants to ignore you.


That’s quite a response! And, the confidence! I appreciate you, man.

Are you denying radical evangelical conservativism exists?

I would hypothesize deeper societal structure causes both equality and gender differences.


It’s not only compelling to a lot of Americans, it’s foundational.


Also high schools. demographics of Thomas Jefferson High School (one of the best in the country) vs. Fairfax county.

I spent decades foolishly believing people didn’t cheat because I grew up around a bunch of Christians. Now, cheating is pervasive. Game theory in action


> I spent decades foolishly believing people didn’t cheat because I grew up around a bunch of Christians.

I will just say this: "Christians" is not a wholly uniform population.


Good point. Presbyterians specifically


That's... Not what they are saying.

They are saying, ironically, that claimed membership of that group or belief isn't actually a high trust signal.


I think they meant Christians cheat a lot (or, enough of them do so as to not be a high trust signal).


They're trying to block your ability to boycott. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws


Those are specifically targeted to boycotts of Israel, which ties it to anti-racial discrimination law.


Exactly, didn’t you see who is behind this?


Not sure if that's an effective way to get change: categorize and denigrate a large number of people by using offensive stereotypes in an attempt to get others to hate them.


Seriously, try reading the original article but do a reversal test on it. For example, imagine that a similar article was written in the 1960s by a business man concerned about the rise of feminism.

Are we really going to just keep repeating these cycles over and over? Do Humans learn nothing?


We had “are women ruining the workplace” articles in major news outlets last year.


Feminism was a progressive movement - this is a regressive movement, meaning a move back to a time of greater misogyny, greater racism, and greater inequality. What is happening is that as white men slowly lose power and social currency in corporate America, they enter a mode of desperation, as they try to claw back as much currency as they can.

These low-effort comparisons to previous movements don't work, because this isn't the underdogs coming up or anything like that. This is THE status-quo trying to maintain it's status-quo status as they feel it slipping. It's sort of similar to how Trump was able to campaign on his anti-establishment message, while he himself IS the establishment.

White men are not the victims in all of this, and are certainly not the victims in corporate America. They run corporate America. This shift highlights a larger society-wide shift to conservatism and the far-right. While we had a small window of progressiveness in the 2010s which landed up many wins, such as the legalization of gay marriage, society is once again closing in as the top brass starts to feel their way of life is threatened.


I had a longer response, but deleted it, because ultimately it comes down to: I view all people to have inherantly equal value. The article implies something else.


Everyone does have inherently equal value, but our systems are structured in such a way to advantage particular people more. That's just the reality of it.

Yes ideally we would want to live in a world where the patriarchy doesn't exist, or where whiteness as a concept doesn't exist. But we are not in that world. So when we have movements such as these, we have to understand they're not coming from a place of unfairness or inequality. They're coming from a place of the establishment, the status-quo, the power, wishing to maintain their power.

You don't get any moral highground here, sorry. It's not as simple as those who believe in equal value versus those who don't. The world is complicated, such as naive and simple world view as the equalivent of "I don't see color" doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny or analysis. You may not wish to see it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


It’s pretty easy to value everyone equally. Just sort by distance


Yeah no you are wrong. They don’t all have inherently equal value. What a naive way to look at the world.


Do visa holders have to register for military drafts?


See here: https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/#p1. Essentially, U.S. citizens and green card holders need to register but there are other groups as well.


Thanks, could someone give some clarity? The link to the details is 404. But, I found an old version on archive.org.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240516075853/https://www.sss.g...

Seems to suggest that F-1 student, H-1B temporary worker, visitor do not have to register. Is that correct?


If a green card holder received his green card at, say, age 35 and did not register (as I understand it, only men aged 18-25 are required to register), would that in any way affect his chances for later naturalization?


When I signed up, I accidently paid for a full year. So from time to time, I'll throw it something just to see what it produces compared to the other LLMs. And, even after all this time, it still feels like a really "dumb" model compared to the other frontier ones. But, worse, many of my system prompts make it go wacky and puke jibberish. However it was pretty cool for those couple months awhile back when it was uncensored. You could ask it about a wild conspiracy, and it would actually build the case and link you to legitimite source material. They dropped the hammer down on that real quick.


Ah yes the psychosis reinforcement vertical. It's such a lucrative market for those schizophrenics and bipolars. Great way to get lots of engagement. Groks portfolio is so diverse


It's a great way to get funded by your CEO and get good performance reviews; xAI employees know how their bread is buttered.


I have a schizophrenic relative who is in such a relationship with grok. Instead of telling hen you need to take your meds, it says hen is the smartest person in the world


I'm so sorry your family is suffering from this. I hope you can find a way to bring them back. Disorders featuring psychosis are so painful for everyone around them. Blessings to you and your family


I love how you guys downvote all the old comments to make them hidden from search. My no-name account rarely gets downvoted. But, within 20 minutes of posting this, I drop 10 points. Rando accounts


Don't worry about HN points. It's all just fake anyway. Numbers on the internet. GitHub stars on the other hand, now those are real.


I upvoted your first comment because it was insightful, interesting, and added to the conversation. I downvoted this one because complaining about downvotes is largely considered to be in bad taste and doesn’t really help anything. I did both of these things before I realized you were the same person.


Yes, for sure I deserve downvotes for the above. Those types of comments should be downvoted. However, I needed to post it to point out that I got the -10 well before the comment above. I never experienced that before and thought it interesting enough to share. Karma doesn't mean anything to me personally. But burst behavior like that is unusual.


I upvoted both of your comments. I also cannot downvote anything.


Except that it pointed at original sources, like reference manuals, archival documents, published newspaper articles, magazine articles, etc. - a lot still available on archive.org. Good try with your 16 day old account. And, why would anyone trust NPR at this point? Get real, bud. Most people with any curiousity know all about the ADL, JStreet, AIPAC, Greater Israel, Mossad / CIA, Chabad networks, Epstein, drones, weapons programs, cryptocurrencies, etc. etc. etc. - but, don't worry they're all safe with papa Ellison.

Anyone remember why Oracle was named Oracle?


Commenter was referencing a Bill Hicks joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXi-9kA4ERM


Actually it's funny you mention Bill Hicks. I didn't even know who he was. Or Alex Jones. That claim was one of the more absurd ones I discovered. But, given everything else I learned over the past year, who f'n knows at this point.


Someone gets it!


"We have improved @Grok significantly," Elon Musk wrote on X last Friday about his platform's integrated artificial intelligence chatbot. "You should notice a difference when you ask Grok questions."

Indeed, the update did not go unnoticed. By Tuesday, Grok was calling itself "MechaHitler."...

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-...

Grok is definitely a reliable source of truthful sane rational information.


Rich billionaire Ellison = bad, compromised

Rich billionaire Musk = good, has no vested interest in biasing the output of his AI tool


This article says git was designed for distributed version control. Then says git doesn't work for most distributed projects because there isn't high trust. But, I'm puzzled why people would still want to build software with low trust.


Discussions like that need to get into the details: trust to do what? You don't want to let randos force push over your repository but you might want to let them submit patches.


625 persons per square mile sounds pretty nice. Where I live is about 3000 per square mile, and the county is about 750 per square mile. And, it's a pleasant Human-scale density.


This initiative isn't about maintaining a certain population density, it's about restricting immigration and separating Switzerland from the European Union.


A lot of people have reached a point where asylum and family reunification aren't high priorities anymore. Over the past 30 years, developed nations have helped 1.5 Billion people get out of extreme poverty. That's huge! But, now many would like to give those people the tools to build their own infrastructure, education systems, health care systems, economies, etc.


Interesting how different perspectives work. It’s less than 400 per square mile in my corner of the country. It’s less than 80 in my area and this feels right for how I want to live.


We’re probably more aligned than not. Within a 40 mile radius, there are a few small towns < 100k, but the rest is low density rural. Unfortunately at the edge there is high density, and skews the average.


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